Ram Dass – Here and Now – Ep. 110 – Live Awake

Live Awake; this is a special talk given at the 1994 Psychedelics Symposium at Chapman College that follows Ram Dass’ history and thoughts surrounding psychedelics.

Psychedelics have guided the course of Ram Dass’ life. Ram Dass shares the history of his relationship with the psychedelic experience, its possibilities and limitations.

Show Notes

The Times They Are Changin’ (Opening) – A few decades ago, Chapman College is one of the least likely places for a person like Ram Dass to speak on a subject like psychedelics. Ram Dass reflects on how attitudes around psychedelics have changed. As well as how psychedelics changed Ram Dass’ perception of himself.

Changing Awareness (13:50) Ram Dass explores how greatly psychedelics have changed his life since that first mushroom trip in 1961. He discusses the continuous change of consciousness and awareness he has taken over the years.

Over that period, Ram Dass began to see that he wasn’t just using psychedelics to just expand his mind but also to get high. Ram Dass talks about realizing that if he wanted to get free that he couldn’t just get high. He shares how he went about changing his relationship to psychedelics and how that opened the doors of possibility.

“I began to see that as long as high represented a polarity from low, or down, I was still stuck in pushing something away.”

Identification and Suffering (18:50) – The more Ram Dass worked with himself, the more he began to appreciate the Buddha’s saying that the cause of suffering is the clinging of mind. He talks about the struggle of freeing awareness from identification.

Ram Dass discusses working with death and dying. Being with someone as they’re dying is the closest one can come to the truth with another person. There is nowhere and no need to hide.

“Death is a situation that demands no bullshit. You just have to be there and be there in truth. If you’re frightened, say ‘I’m frightened.'”

Set and Setting (25:50) – Set and setting can be like a launching pad for the psychedelic experience. Ram Dass talks about the role of set, setting, and reminding ourselves where we really are at.

“I have to work on myself to become more spacious in order to be available to you, to free you to be able to do what you need to do.”

Caught In the Myth (35:00) – Ram Dass talks about the current role that psychedelics play in his spiritual practice. How they have become a tool for checking in on himself, to see what else he has to learn.

“I think I was caught in the myth we got into in the 60’s; that we were all going to be enlightened, almost immediately. We all awakened, but we didn’t get enlightened.”

Psychedelics and Social Change (41:45) – Ram Dass reflects on how much of the work done in the 60’s towards consciousness changing has taken root today. He shares his thoughts on the role that psychedelics have played in the cultural changes we have seen.

“There isn’t one social problem that can’t be dealt with more profoundly through the kind of wisdom that comes through inner work. Psychedelics are clearly, if used with the right set in a supportive setting, a brilliant way to start that inner work.”

For more from Ram Dass on psychedelics, check out A Long, Strange Trip – Psychedelics and Loving Awareness

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