Ram Dass – Here and Now – Ep. 228 – You Can’t Have An Us and Them

In this episode of the Here and Now Podcast, Ram Dass talks about practice in daily life and answers questions about polarization and fundamentalism, integrating psychodynamic and spiritual techniques, dealing with addiction, and more.

“And I said I’m not going to get discouraged because I can see that a centrist position, this is a hard one, a centrist position… That at this point in the way the world game is a falling, either everybody goes or nobody goes. You can’t polarize it again. You can’t have an ‘us’ and ‘them.’ It’s got to keep embracing people, embracing people. And I saw that would demand much more centrism than I was used to or wanted from a Democratic president and so on.” – Ram Dass

In this episode of Here and Now:

  • Ram Dass talks about letting methods of practice such as mantras and kirtan permeate your daily life
  • Ram Dass gives a detailed response to a question about the rise of fundamentalism in the world, exploring polarization and why you can’t have an “us” and “them”
  • Ram Dass takes on more questions about integrating psychodynamic and spiritual techniques, the importance of rituals, and dealing with addiction

“I think the tricky thing is for us to integrate psychodynamic techniques and spiritual techniques. Psychodynamic technique says let’s work it out; spiritual technique says let’s get on with it, let’s leave it behind. If you do either one of them to an extreme, you lose it. Hear that one? That’s interesting. It’s really the balance of them.” – Ram Dass

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